At the Out at St. Paul Book Club, the topic of discussion will be Jamie O’Neill’s novel “At Swim, Two Boys.” O’Neill is a gay Irish author who was raised a Roman Catholic. Leaving home at age 17, according to O’Neill, he didn’t get along well with his father. As a young man, O’Neill began a relationship with British TV presenter Russell Harty who was 27 years his senior. Published in 2001, “At Swim, Two Boys” is considered by some as a landmark book in LGBT literature and remains O’Neill’s most acclaimed work. Along with another famous novel about a boy’s so-called sexual awakening, André Aciman’s 2007 “Call Me By Your Name,” O’Neill’s book contains instances of homosexual grooming.
The book tells the story of two very different 16-year old boys, Jim and Doyler. With the backdrop of political and social upheaval in early 20th century Ireland, these two wayward and abused young men begin a friendship that eventually results in homosexual sex. While Jim is naive and shy, Doyler is more outgoing. Jim attends a Catholic school where one of his teachers is a religious named “Brother Polycarp.” According to one reviewer, “Jim is too innocent to realise how he is being groomed by Brother Polycarp.” In the meantime, the more streetwise Doyler meets an older gay man who pays the teenage boy for sex.
In the book, swimming is used as an allegory for the developing sexual relationship between the two main characters; but especially for Jim who doesn’t know how to swim. But in the book’s most disturbing storyline, the older man who earlier assaulted Doyler, becomes a sort of mentor and begins to teach Jim how to swim. While a reviewer at the New York Times briefly mentioned “the ticklish business of celebrating under-age lovers and a grown man’s entanglement with them both,” the book is alarming for it’s rather benevolent view of sex between boys and men.
The Out at St. Paul ministry and the Parish is a favorite of Jesuit priest James Martin. In a recent promotional video for the Second Edition of his book “Building a Bridge,” Martin included images of Out at St. Paul members. During his featured presentation at the 2018 Los Angeles Religious Education Congress, Martin praised the group:
The Church has a responsibility to make everyone feel visible and valuable. Visible. Recognizing that LGBT Catholics exist has important pastoral implications. It means carrying out ministry that some dioceses and parishes already do well. Particularly in this Archdiocese, I know many parishes for example, I know St. Monica’s, that has a flourishing LGBT ministry. The parish that I go to, the Church of St. Paul the Apostle in New York, which is where this picture is from. [A photo of various members from the Out at St. Paul ministry appears on the overhead screen.] That’s the Pastor Gil Martinez, and the group Out at St. Paul…a flourishing ministry.
At another major Catholic forum, Martin praised Out at St. Paul during the 2018 World Meeting of Families held in Ireland.
On July 16, 2017, James Martin, addressed Out at St. Paul; he had previously spoken to the group on March 2, 2017. In the past, Out at St. Paul sponsored and promoted a Mass at the site of the Stonewall Riots, “countertraditions” to Adam and Eve, and an outing to a local gay bar. On several occasions, Martin has recommended both the Parish and Out at St. Paul (see video interview, and a Facebook live discussion.) In a video series entitled “Owning Our Faith,” featuring various LGBT members from the Out at St. Paul ministry, a “gay” Catholic man said the following:
I think what’s interesting is that the Catholic Church probably thinks that it is accepting of gay people, because its message is ‘gay people exist and we should love them and not discriminate against them. But because the Church also tells gay people essentially that they need to be celibate, what the Church is saying is ‘you cannot live fully. You can be gay but you can’t live that life.’ And so that inherently is discriminatory.
On June 15, 2017, Martin again recommended Out at St. Paul on his official Twitter account:
Dear friends: "Out at St. Paul" is one of the most vibrant Catholic #LGBT ministries in the country, perhaps the world. A ministry of the Church of St. Paul the Apostle in NYC, it seeks to welcome all to the church and is a model for many parishes. Here's an intro to @outatstpaul pic.twitter.com/4OFu20e5nS
— James Martin, SJ (@JamesMartinSJ) June 15, 2018
On his Facebook page, Martin wrote:
Dear friends: “Out at St. Paul” is one of the most dynamic Catholic LGBT ministries in the country, and probably the world. It is a ministry of the Church of St. Paul the Apostle in New York City, just next door to our Jesuit community. They shared this video with me and asked me to share it with you. May it give hope to parishes who are striving to be welcoming places for everyone.
Please contact the Archdiocese of New York:
Cardinal Timothy Dolan
Phone: 212-371-1000
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𝓙𝓪𝓶𝓮𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓽𝓲𝓷~𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒔𝒖𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒆𝒓𝒂 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒌𝒊𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒐𝒍𝒐𝒈𝒚. 𝑴𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒔𝒂𝒄𝒓𝒂𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕. 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒅𝒆 𝑮𝒓𝒐𝒐𝒎 𝒘𝒆𝒅 𝑯𝒊𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉 & 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒘𝒐 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒎𝒆 𝒐𝒏𝒆, 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒏’𝒔 𝒊𝒏 𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒈𝒆. 𝑱𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒂𝒔 𝑨𝒅𝒂𝒎 & 𝑬𝒗𝒆, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒊𝒓𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒂𝒄𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒘𝒆𝒅, 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒎𝒆 𝒐𝒏𝒆 & 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒅𝒖𝒄𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒇𝒇𝒔𝒑𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈, 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 & 𝑯𝒊𝒔 𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒅𝒆 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒅𝒖𝒄𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒇𝒇-𝒔𝒑𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒌𝒆𝒆𝒑 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒔, 𝒂𝒄𝒄𝒐𝒓𝒅𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝑺𝒕 .𝑱𝒐𝒉𝒏’𝒔 𝒆𝒙𝒑𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒊𝒏 𝒓𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏. 𝑴𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒖𝒍𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒆𝒙𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒐𝒇 𝒍𝒐𝒗𝒆, 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒆 & 𝒊’𝒎 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓𝒔, 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 9-5 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒐𝒏𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒄𝒕 𝒊 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒂𝒕 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒌 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆, 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒃𝒊𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒎𝒆, 𝒑𝒂𝒔𝒕 & 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒆𝒏𝒕 & 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒃𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒖𝒏𝒍𝒆𝒔𝒔 𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒖𝒔 𝒅𝒊𝒆𝒔. 𝑨𝒏𝒏𝒖𝒍𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒅𝒐𝒆𝒔𝒏𝒕 𝒅𝒊𝒔𝒔𝒐𝒍𝒗𝒆 𝒂 𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒈𝒆. 𝑰𝒇 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒑𝒆𝒓 𝒆𝒗𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒅𝒖𝒄𝒆𝒅, 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒅 𝒊𝒕 𝒃𝒆𝒆𝒏 𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘𝒏 𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆 𝒃𝒚 𝒆𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒚, 𝒃𝒓𝒊𝒅𝒆, 𝒈𝒓𝒐𝒐𝒎 𝒐𝒓 𝑪𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉, 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒅 𝒊𝒕 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒈𝒐𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒅, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉 𝒅𝒆𝒄𝒍𝒂𝒓𝒆𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒏𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒗𝒂𝒍𝒊𝒅 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 1𝒔𝒕 𝒑𝒍𝒂𝒄𝒆 𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒊𝒕 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒚 𝒘𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒂𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒅 𝒖𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒓 𝒅𝒆𝒄𝒆𝒑𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒔𝒐 𝒊𝒕’𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒂 𝒅𝒊𝒗𝒐𝒓𝒄𝒆. 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒎𝒂𝒅𝒆 𝒄𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒓 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒊𝒔, 𝒔𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒗𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒓’𝒔 𝒊𝒏𝒇𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒚 𝒔𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉 𝒅𝒐𝒆𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒚/𝒂𝒃𝒊𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒕𝒐 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒈𝒆 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒚 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒍𝒂𝒘 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝑫𝒊𝒗𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒘 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐~𝑰 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒃𝒆 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒆𝒅 𝑱𝒂𝒎𝒆𝒔, 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒎𝒚 𝒔𝒐𝒖𝒍 𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒊𝒏 𝒂 𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒆 & 𝒎𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒆 𝒉𝒐𝒎𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉 & 𝒂𝒄𝒄𝒆𝒑𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒉𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒎𝒖𝒄𝒉 𝒘𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒏 𝒖𝒔 𝒂𝒔 𝒔𝒉𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒃𝒆𝒆𝒏 𝒈𝒖𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒅 𝒃𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕, & 𝒘𝒆 𝒎𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒐𝒃𝒆𝒚 𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒕𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒑𝒐𝒏𝒔𝒊𝒃𝒊𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒔𝒐𝒖𝒍’𝒔 & 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒔𝒂𝒏𝒅’𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒚𝒆𝒂𝒓’𝒔 𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒅 𝒇𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒚. 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒎𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒐 𝒍𝒊𝒗𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒘𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏 & 𝒅𝒆𝒄𝒍𝒂𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒊𝒏𝒇𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒐𝒍𝒍𝒐𝒘𝒊𝒏𝒈: 𝑪𝒂𝒏𝒐𝒏 751: “𝐇𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐲 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐛𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐨𝐫 𝐨𝐛𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐮𝐛𝐭 𝐚𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐞𝐩𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐛𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐢𝐬𝐦 𝐨𝐟 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐭𝐡 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐛𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐝𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐟𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐡; 𝐚𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐬𝐲 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐨𝐭𝐚𝐥 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐟𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐡; 𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐦 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐮𝐬𝐚𝐥 𝐨𝐟 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐞 𝐏𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐟 𝐨𝐫 𝐨𝐟 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐞𝐦𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐣𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐢𝐦.”….JAMES, SADLY YOU DONT GET A PASS CAUSE YOU DIDN’T KNOW YOU MUST OBEY WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS, WHICH IS THAT WHEN A PERSON DISAGREES WITH HIS BROTHERS & THEN THE CHURCH THEN THEY ARE TO BE CAST ASIDE LIKE A GENTILE OR TAX COLLECTOR~EXCOMMUNICATED (“Canon 751 & possibly (canon 1398). 𝑪𝒂𝒏𝒐𝒏 751: “𝑯𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒚 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒐𝒃𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝒐𝒓 𝒐𝒃𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒖𝒃𝒕 𝒂𝒇𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒄𝒆𝒑𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒐𝒇 𝒃𝒂𝒑𝒕𝒊𝒔𝒎 𝒐𝒇 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆 𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒕𝒉 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒐 𝒃𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒅 𝒃𝒚 𝒅𝒊𝒗𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑪𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒄 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒉; 𝒂𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒔𝒚 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒐𝒕𝒂𝒍 𝒓𝒆𝒑𝒖𝒅𝒊𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒏 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒉; 𝒔𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒔𝒎 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒇𝒖𝒔𝒂𝒍 𝒐𝒇 𝒔𝒖𝒃𝒎𝒊𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒖𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒆 𝑷𝒐𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒇𝒇 𝒐𝒓 𝒐𝒇 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒖𝒏𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒎𝒆𝒎𝒃𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉 𝒔𝒖𝒃𝒋𝒆𝒄𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒊𝒎.” 𝑪𝒂𝒏𝒐𝒏 1364 §1: “𝒂𝒏 𝒂𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒉, 𝒂 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒕𝒊𝒄, 𝒐𝒓 𝒂 𝒔𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒔𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒄 𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒔 𝒂 𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒂𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒆 𝒆𝒙𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒖𝒏𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏.” 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒉𝒓𝒂𝒔𝒆 “𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒂𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒆” 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒂 𝒋𝒖𝒅𝒈𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒐𝒓 𝒔𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒊𝒔 ‘𝒘𝒊𝒅𝒆’ (𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒂𝒆) 𝒐𝒓 𝒘𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒅; 𝒊𝒕 𝒓𝒆𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒕𝒐 𝒂 𝒕𝒚𝒑𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒆𝒙𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒖𝒏𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒐𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒄. 𝑺𝒖𝒄𝒉 𝒂 𝒔𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒆𝒙𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒖𝒏𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒊𝒔 𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒅 “𝒃𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒊𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒐𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒏𝒔𝒆,” (𝑪𝑪𝑪 2272) 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒅𝒐𝒆𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒓𝒆𝒒𝒖𝒊𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒖𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒖𝒍𝒂𝒓 𝒋𝒖𝒅𝒈𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒂 𝒄𝒂𝒔𝒆 𝒃𝒚 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒚. 𝑨𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒔𝒚, 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒚, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒔𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒔𝒎 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒐𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒖𝒓 𝒂 𝒔𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒆𝒙𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒖𝒏𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒐𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚. 𝑯𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒚 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒐𝒃𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒕𝒉 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒄 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒉, 𝒐𝒏 𝒂 𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒐𝒇 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒐𝒓 𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒂𝒍𝒔, 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒃𝒆𝒆𝒏 𝒅𝒆𝒇𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒕𝒂𝒖𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒃𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑴𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒖𝒎. (𝑪𝑪𝑪 2270 𝒕𝒐 2275)
Joseph, correct me if I am wrong, but a man with your background could possibly tell me if my suspicions are right. Having associated with members of the gay community (my twin is gay) I learned to notice who was straight and who was not very quickly. Now I put it to you that Fr. James Martin is indeed a practising homosexual. All his mannerisms, speech and thoughts reflect to accurately those of a homosexual man. I feel confident, if the (pardon the pun) ball swing in his favour from the Vatican, then we will see him finally come out of the closet. If it swings the other way then he will remain tight lipped.
…Fortunate that both St. Pauls and Jesuit Fordham are close by to Mt. Sinai St. Lukes hospital. How many of the out-men end up there after being told by Catholic priests (Fr. Martin and Gil Martinez to be sure) that they are born for high risk anal sex, er, I mean that they are born gay.
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