What have the Jesuits done that is good for mankind in the last 50 years? Nothing I can see. When Jesuit master of novices Fr. Predovich told me back in 1972 that he had visitations by white witches, I then knew the Jesuits were going down the tubes. That was followed by the Jesuits promoting Marxist liberation theology. That was followed by Jesuits promoting homosexuality (of which segment of the Jesuit order you are of course merely one more example). Now we have the oldest Jesuit University in America openly promoting abortion (tap “Does Georgetown promote abortions?” into Google to prove my point) and Fordham condemning almost any form of Catholicism. So at least I can explain to my nephews, nieces and granddaughters the we all know the Jesuits are not Catholic, so don’t be bothered by them.
Ed of CT.
May 27, 2017 at 3:44 am
Shows the rot of Apostasy that has infected the whole of the Jesuit order . This is evident Right up to the Vatican , Venezuelan HD and infamous Cino Martin Jesuit promoted by Francis.. …. How did any of them Francis included make it through the seminary let alone into important position in the Jesiit order?…. Founders of the Order Francis Xavier , Ignatius Loyola and Father Marquette must be spinning in their graves or in Heaven at what the Jesuits have sunk to. Lord have mercy on the cino not RC faith now.
Ignacio
May 27, 2017 at 11:34 am
No, not all members of the Society of Jesús accept this proposition. While temptations are not sins and substances are not sins that does not remove responsibility for exciting a passion that leads one to sin. Fr. Conroy has forgotten his philosophical anthropology class. His Oregon
Province is bankrupted because of their un controlled sex perverts (mostly sodomites).
Fr Eric
May 29, 2017 at 3:24 pm
“How might God be present in the homosexual experience?” To have a homosexual experience, does this not entail sodomy. So, in effect, how is God present in sodomy?
In the beginning God made them male and female. The human person is either a male or a female, not heterosexual or homosexual. When the human person acts then we have a human action. Some human actions are conducive to life, dignity, and ordered to the good. Some actions are contrary to reason and not ordered to the good and are selfish.
The sin of sex between a male and a female who are not committed in marriage for the sake of life and love is that they manipulate a loving action to be selfish and possibly allow for a child to be denied that commitment.
Same sex activity tries to force a love and life giving definition on an action that is not ordered to the good of the other, biologically or emotionally.
Furthermore, there needs to be a conversation on friendship. “A faithful friend is a sturdy shelter. He who finds one finds a treasure and no sum can balance his worth. A faithful friend is a life-saving remedy such as he who fears God finds. He who fears God behaves accordingly and his friend will be like himself.” Sir 6 We do not understand friendship anymore.
Fr. John Meyers
May 29, 2017 at 4:34 pm
Certainly acted-out, same-sex attraction is a dead end. Too bad he does not mean that.
Bill
May 29, 2017 at 9:17 pm
It is amazing how so many people can be blinded by their passions.
Joseph Sciambra has created a brilliant video, resplendent with the truth of Christ. The video also exposes the depths to which a once great Catholic order, the Jesuits, the Society of Jesus, has now sunk.
St. Ignatius of Loyola, raise up the priests and brothers of your once great order to your level again, to the level of St. Francis Xavier, to the level of St. Jean de Brébeuf, and to the level of all the other countless Jesuit saints, known and unknown, who made such enormous sacrifices for Christ and for us, His Mystical Body.
The presence of the love of Christ that we need for ourselves is not found in another human being. The love of Christ comes to us from the Spirit of Christ by our walking in the Spirit. It has nothing to do with who we may want to commit ourselves to in any relationship. Others cannot provide it for us.
One of the fruits of the Spirit is temperance (aka self-control). This is for everyone.
How might God be present in homosexual relationships and experience? Wrong question. God is present in those who humble themselves toward Him. Then we conduct ourselves with the strength that is given to us by the Spirit. When we look to others more than we look to God for our peace and contentment, then we come up with wrong questions and wrong answers, and no peace.
Spoken like a genuine classical pagan humanist… absolutes exist for our spiritual benefit.
What have the Jesuits done that is good for mankind in the last 50 years? Nothing I can see. When Jesuit master of novices Fr. Predovich told me back in 1972 that he had visitations by white witches, I then knew the Jesuits were going down the tubes. That was followed by the Jesuits promoting Marxist liberation theology. That was followed by Jesuits promoting homosexuality (of which segment of the Jesuit order you are of course merely one more example). Now we have the oldest Jesuit University in America openly promoting abortion (tap “Does Georgetown promote abortions?” into Google to prove my point) and Fordham condemning almost any form of Catholicism. So at least I can explain to my nephews, nieces and granddaughters the we all know the Jesuits are not Catholic, so don’t be bothered by them.
Shows the rot of Apostasy that has infected the whole of the Jesuit order . This is evident Right up to the Vatican , Venezuelan HD and infamous Cino Martin Jesuit promoted by Francis.. …. How did any of them Francis included make it through the seminary let alone into important position in the Jesiit order?…. Founders of the Order Francis Xavier , Ignatius Loyola and Father Marquette must be spinning in their graves or in Heaven at what the Jesuits have sunk to. Lord have mercy on the cino not RC faith now.
No, not all members of the Society of Jesús accept this proposition. While temptations are not sins and substances are not sins that does not remove responsibility for exciting a passion that leads one to sin. Fr. Conroy has forgotten his philosophical anthropology class. His Oregon
Province is bankrupted because of their un controlled sex perverts (mostly sodomites).
“How might God be present in the homosexual experience?” To have a homosexual experience, does this not entail sodomy. So, in effect, how is God present in sodomy?
In the beginning God made them male and female. The human person is either a male or a female, not heterosexual or homosexual. When the human person acts then we have a human action. Some human actions are conducive to life, dignity, and ordered to the good. Some actions are contrary to reason and not ordered to the good and are selfish.
The sin of sex between a male and a female who are not committed in marriage for the sake of life and love is that they manipulate a loving action to be selfish and possibly allow for a child to be denied that commitment.
Same sex activity tries to force a love and life giving definition on an action that is not ordered to the good of the other, biologically or emotionally.
Furthermore, there needs to be a conversation on friendship. “A faithful friend is a sturdy shelter. He who finds one finds a treasure and no sum can balance his worth. A faithful friend is a life-saving remedy such as he who fears God finds. He who fears God behaves accordingly and his friend will be like himself.” Sir 6 We do not understand friendship anymore.
Certainly acted-out, same-sex attraction is a dead end. Too bad he does not mean that.
It is amazing how so many people can be blinded by their passions.
Joseph Sciambra has created a brilliant video, resplendent with the truth of Christ. The video also exposes the depths to which a once great Catholic order, the Jesuits, the Society of Jesus, has now sunk.
St. Ignatius of Loyola, raise up the priests and brothers of your once great order to your level again, to the level of St. Francis Xavier, to the level of St. Jean de Brébeuf, and to the level of all the other countless Jesuit saints, known and unknown, who made such enormous sacrifices for Christ and for us, His Mystical Body.
The presence of the love of Christ that we need for ourselves is not found in another human being. The love of Christ comes to us from the Spirit of Christ by our walking in the Spirit. It has nothing to do with who we may want to commit ourselves to in any relationship. Others cannot provide it for us.
One of the fruits of the Spirit is temperance (aka self-control). This is for everyone.
How might God be present in homosexual relationships and experience? Wrong question. God is present in those who humble themselves toward Him. Then we conduct ourselves with the strength that is given to us by the Spirit. When we look to others more than we look to God for our peace and contentment, then we come up with wrong questions and wrong answers, and no peace.