Gay Priest Says Same-Sex Partnered Officials in the Vatican

2018-08-11T03:53:10+00:00August 11th, 2018|Blog, The Church|

In a post dated August 8, 2018, on the website of the dissident Association of Catholic Priests, (originally published in “The Tablet” on 1 Aug. 18) pro-gay priest James Alison describes, what he calls the “clerical closet” in the Roman Catholic Church which he maintains facilitated the current sex scandal in the Church. He argues, that the problem is not homosexuality in the priesthood, but “gay” priests who are forced to remain in the closet. Alison gives the following example:

…a few years ago, I found myself leading a retreat for Italian gay priests in Rome. Of the nearly 50 participants some were single, some partnered, for others it was the first time they could to talk honestly with other priests outside the confessional. Among them there were seven or eight mid-level Vatican officials. I asked one from the Congregation for the Clergy what he made of those attending with their partners. He smiled and said, “Of course, we know that the partnered ones are the healthy ones.” Let that sink in. In the clerical closet, dishonesty is functional, honesty is dysfunctional, and the absence or presence of circumspect sexual practice between adult males is irrelevant.

Ordained with the Dominicans in 1978, Alison now describes himself “as a Catholic priest and theologian who is also gay.” In a 2012 interview, he said: “My current canonical status is anomalous. I am a validly ordained priest in good standing, with no penalties or disciplinary matters hanging over me. Although it is many years since I have been associated with the Dominicans, I have not been laicized.” Alison has been openly critical in both his published works, as well as in interviews and lectures, concerning the Church’s teachings on homosexuality. For the most part, his contention is that “gay” men and women are created gay by God, thus the homosexual inclination is not “intrinsically disordered,” and that the Catholic Church’s teachings on the issue will eventually change.

Quotes from James Alison:

My disagreement with the current teaching of the Roman Congregations is about what I consider to be their fundamentally flawed premise of the objectively disordered nature of the inclination.

…the Church can, without any damage to its divine doctrine and mission, change its characterization of gay and lesbian people, and, changing its characterization, change also its position with relation to the civil laws which normalize the lives of such people.

…the Church cannot say of the homosexual inclination that it is a desire which is in itself intrinsically evil, since to say this would be to fall into the heresy of claiming that there is some part of being human which is essentially depraved.

It means noting with joy that we are now closer than ever to being able to imagine that a rejoicing gay heart and a rejoicing Catholic heart can be the same heart, and a normal, and healthy and holy thing. We can imagine a seminar reading Brokeback Mountain in the light of Deus Caritas Est or vice versa… (See: “The Gays and Grays: The Story of the Gay Community at Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Parish” by Donal Godfrey, S.J.)

The same one who creates us redeems us. And he hasn’t redeemed us by despising that which he created, but by making it much more perfect. The moment this becomes clear or accepted, that what we call being “gay” or being “lesbian” is not any sort of pathology, either psychological or physiological, but what I refer to as a regularly occurring non-pathological minority variant in the human condition, whether Church authority likes it or not, the teaching will change and has changed. Because the teaching that stays the same is the teaching about grace. So the question isn’t, “must the Church change its teachings?” but given that we have been shown something new, “how will the Church adapt and face up to this new truth?”

Given the existence, present and future, of committed, long term, partnerships recognised by civil law between adults of the same-sex who happen to be baptised, what should we call these? To what forms of flourishing can they contribute? What might their relationship be to the creation of forms of hospitality to the vulnerable, whether children or other precarious people? Please remember that in the classic understanding of marriage, it is the fact that the two partners are baptised which is what gives the marriage its sacramentality. They are living out a secular reality, marriage, in a way which is elevated by the fact that each is acting out the role of Christ loving his Church by giving his life, even unto death, for the other.

What is certainly true is that no purpose at all is served by seeing these realities as in principle in rivalry with each other, as though same-sex marriage somehow cheapens opposite-sex marriage. Likewise, should it indeed turn out that marriage between two baptized persons of the same sex is not sacramental in exactly the same sense as opposite-sex marriage, then whatever form of sacramentality does turn out to be proper to same-sex couples would certainly not be “second best” to the sacrament of marriage. God’s summons to flourishing involves people being called in tailor-made ways, not forced to endure invidious comparisons. There are many mansions in God’s house, and he invites each of us to discover what is his plan for each one of us—we are called by name, not by category.

Most of the theories espoused by Alison have been incorporated into several Catholic LGBT ministries. For example, on December 15, 2016, Alison spoke at St. Paul the Apostle Catholic Church in New York City; the parish is the home to the gay-affirmative ministry “Out at St. Paul.” In the film project “Owning Our Faith,” which was sponsored by St. Paul the Apostle Church and the Paulist Fathers, several members of the “ministry” are interviewed. Here are two excerpts from the documentary:

If we leave it, if we abandon the Church then it’s never going to change. So we have to continue living here, being an example and encouraging other people to be that example because that’s what’s going to change the Church.

It’s just not a matter of accepting us, you have to, or tolerate us, you have to encourage us to be who we are. We are God’s creation. And to deny that is to deny that He knows what the hell he’s doing.

I think what’s interesting is that the Catholic Church probably thinks that it is accepting of gay people, because its message is ‘gay people exist and we should love them and not discriminate against them. But because the Church also tells gay people essentially that they need to be celibate, what the Church is saying is ‘you cannot live fully. You can be gay but you can’t live that life.’ And so that inherently is discriminatory.

According to numerous studies, the majority of so-called “monogamous” same-sex male relationships are actually open negotiated partnerships which allow sex with outside partners.

11 Comments

  1. Fr John Corrigan August 11, 2018 at 2:42 pm

    “…the Church cannot say of the homosexual inclination that it is a desire which is in itself intrinsically evil, since to say this would be to fall into the heresy of claiming that there is some part of being human which is essentially depraved.”

    Are we are all, then, incapable of attachment to sin? Are we, indeed, incapable of falling from grace? Is Original Sin a discredited myth? The Redemptive Action at Calvary redundant?

    This priest’s moral theology is as confused as his moral life. There’s a causal relationship there, no doubt. I’ll pray for him, as I pray for you — constantly — Joseph. Keep up the good work!

  2. PATRICIA KOENIG August 11, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    A gay theologian is an oxymoron!

  3. Gloria August 12, 2018 at 4:19 am

    Have they not read the bible where even God says it’s an abomination? What part of this do they not understand?

  4. Chris Ramsey August 12, 2018 at 11:55 am

    The irony is that James Alison actually holds what I believe to be the explanatory key to same-sex attraction – namely, the concept of “mimetic desire” conceived and developed by René Girard. Alison is well-known within the academic community of Girardian scholars. The “born this way” myth is a nasty lie, unsupported by numerous studies but promoted as “the truth” by do-called scientists like James Alison.

    • Jan Stohl August 18, 2018 at 7:54 pm

      Dear Chris Ramsey, Rene Girard was not a theologian just like James Alison is not a scientist.
      In his theory of mimetic desire, René Girard never claimed that the homosexual is “born this way,” nor that we should not fight against our unhealthy desire.
      It’s the exact opposite that’s true.

  5. Rodger Smith August 13, 2018 at 2:42 pm

    This is craziness. There should absolutely not be any gay, pro gay, or any such as a priest, deacon or any other type official in the Catholic Church. It is a total abomination.Those in charge need to clean this mess up or resign.

  6. TLM August 13, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    This is exactly what is going on here Chris! And…..they are all latching on to the ‘born this way’ lie, at least all those who desperately WANT TO. Real scientists have been researching for years to find….’the gene’….and have YET to find it. What they have found, is that if you are born with the genitalia of either a male or a female…then the genes, the dna, and everything else matches that. What Alison is trying to push is a flat out lie from hell.

  7. Doc Springer August 18, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    All are created in God’s likeness. Not all reflect that likeness well. Most homosexual men and women I know admit it is a choice.

    That said, some people are born killers. Do we hand them a free ride because “God made them that way?” Some spouses have a much higher sex-drive than their mate. “God made them that way.” Do we allow adultery for them?

    Research shows some people are born more jealous than others. Do we allow unbridled covetousness for them? Of course not! The rules apply equally to all. And all carry one cross or another.

    The church tells us to love each other and to help each other carry our burdens. Knowing my friend has a higher sex drive that her husband, I can be supportive of the struggle she faces without supporting a decision to commit adultery.

    We must reach out and love each other. Love is not all rose petals soft and filled with yeses. . Sometimes it is all about the thorns and saying no.

  8. DisturbedMary August 22, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Does he ever address the fact that men’s bodies are not made to have sex with other men. It isn’t just not possible, it is deadly dangerous behavior. So where’s God in that Mr. Alison?

  9. Nychouse August 22, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    Joseph Sciambra, thanks! And thanks for sharing your great posts every week!

  10. AD September 4, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    Partnered priests? Priests aren’t supposed to have partners, male or female. Do these men believe this to be a Protestant church rather than Roman Catholic? People keep saying the Church needs to be reformed. I think the laity needs to be reformed since priests start off as lay people.

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